Passion, Purpose and Perseverance with Surria Fadel | A Mo’ment with Mo

A Conversation with Surria Fadel

Mo: Surria, welcome to the show. I am so happy to have you here.

Surria: Thank you, Mo. It is an absolute pleasure. We have known each other for so many years, and reconnecting like this feels wonderful.

Mo: We first met through the fitness industry, where you were an award-winning personal trainer, group fitness instructor, coach, and pain management therapist. Looking back, do you see a connection between the coach you were then and the entrepreneur you are today?

Surria: Absolutely. Fitness taught me how to listen, coach, encourage, and help people believe in themselves. It also taught me how to overcome objections, which has been incredibly valuable in business.

Surria: When my son Ameen and I started Cedar Valley, we heard a lot of noes from retailers. I always told him that no does not necessarily mean no. It often means not now. You have to keep showing up, keep asking, and wait for the right opportunity.

Mo: I love that idea of redefining no as not now. Cedar Valley began as a project with your then 16-year-old son. Did you ever imagine it would become the company it is today?

Surria: Not at all. Ameen received a high school grant to start a business and needed my recipes and help in the kitchen. I thought it would simply be a school project.

Surria: At the time, I was 52 and expected fitness to be my retirement career. I had no intention of becoming an entrepreneur. But life had a different plan, and that project eventually became Cedar Valley.

Mo: What gave you the courage to begin again at that stage in your life?

Surria: I grew up with an entrepreneurial father, so change and risk were part of my childhood. We experienced highs and lows, and I learned early that change is constant.

Surria: I never thought I wanted that kind of life for myself, but when the opportunity came through my son, I decided to try. I realized that if it did not work, I could return to fitness. The real regret would have been never trying at all.

Mo: What would you say to women who are sitting on a dream and wondering whether it is too late?

Surria: It is never too early and never too late. We often create barriers for ourselves because we are afraid of failure or worried about what other people may think.

Surria: Failure is part of the process. Anyone who says they built a business without making mistakes is not telling the whole story. The important thing is what you do after the failure.

Mo: Was there a moment when you seriously considered walking away from Cedar Valley?

Surria: There were several. One of the hardest happened when we were producing dressing at a government facility and an entire batch became contaminated. We had to throw away thousands of dollars in product at a time when we could not afford the loss.

Surria: I walked outside, slid down the wall, and cried. My daughter called and asked me why I kept going. That question brought me back to my why.

Surria: Every time I felt ready to quit, a customer would contact us and explain how our products had helped their family. Mothers would send videos of their children eating vegetables because they loved our dressing. Those messages reminded me that what we were creating mattered.

Mo: Knowing your why seems to have been central to your perseverance.

Surria: It has been everything. When you know why you are doing something, the difficult days become more manageable. It does not make the journey easy, but it makes it possible to keep going.

Surria: Passion also helps quiet the self-doubt. When you deeply believe in the work, that passion gives you the energy to continue through uncertainty and setbacks.

Mo: Cedar Valley later appeared on Dragons’ Den, where you received an incredible offer from Arlene Dickinson. What was that experience like?

Surria: We appeared on the show in 2023 and asked for $250,000 for five percent of the company. Arlene loved the chips and offered us $1 million for 20 percent.

Surria: We were thrilled because she respected our valuation, and we accepted the offer on the show. At the time, we needed the investment to build our manufacturing facility.

Mo: But you ultimately decided not to move forward with the deal.

Surria: That is right. During the due diligence process, we received government funding through an interest-free loan. It gave us what we needed while allowing us to keep the company family-owned.

Surria: Saying no to Arlene was incredibly difficult because we respected her so much, but it was the right decision for our business at that time.

Mo: You recently said yes to another major opportunity after initially turning it down. Can you share a little about that?

Surria: A production team contacted us after seeing a video about Cedar Valley becoming the official snack of the OHL. They invited Ameen and me to apply for a major Canadian summer reality show.

Surria: When I watched the show, my first reaction was absolutely not. I was 62, and the physical challenges were far outside my comfort zone.

Surria: My children reminded me of the advice I had always given them: you can do hard things, but you have to be willing to try. They encouraged me to take my own advice, so I said yes.

Mo: What made you decide the experience was worth taking on?

Surria: I wanted to represent my culture, my faith, mothers, grandmothers, and women who may not see themselves in those spaces. I wanted other women to see that age, clothing, faith, or expectations do not have to limit what is possible.

Surria: The show accommodated my religious and personal needs, and that allowed me to participate without compromising who I am.

Mo: What did that experience teach you?

Surria: It taught me that we are capable of much more than we think. I had to live with uncertainty every day because we never knew what challenge, destination, or mode of transportation was coming next.

Surria: It was one of the hardest things I have ever done, but it was also one of the most rewarding. I hope my granddaughters see it and think that if their grandmother could do that, they can do hard things too.

Mo: You also spend time mentoring women entrepreneurs. What is one piece of advice you give them?

Surria: Ask questions. Do not let ego stop you from learning. There is no shame in admitting that you do not know something.

Surria: We built Cedar Valley by asking retailers, government departments, vendors, manufacturers, and other entrepreneurs question after question. Surround yourself with people who have experience, stay curious, and do not try to reinvent everything on your own.

Mo: You have also spoken about the importance of women allowing themselves to pursue their own goals.

Surria: Women often put themselves last because they feel responsible for everyone around them. There comes a point when it is okay to put yourself first and say, this is my time.

Surria: When you know your passion and your purpose, you have to be willing to get on the train. The people around you can support you and come along, but they cannot be allowed to stand in the way of your growth.

Mo: Surria, thank you for sharing your story, your wisdom, and your willingness to keep stepping into new opportunities. Your journey is a powerful reminder that reinvention is not about becoming someone entirely new. It is about becoming more of who you have always been.

From fitness to food, from Cedar Valley to Dragons’ Den, and now to another extraordinary Canadian adventure, you have shown that age is not a limitation, change can be an opportunity, and failure is never the end of the story.

As you reflect on this conversation, ask yourself: What dream have I put on hold, and what new chapter may be waiting for me?

You can listen to the full episode here:

Stillness Is Strength: Leading with Clarity & Alignment with Penny Phang

A Conversation with Penny Phang

Mo: Penny, welcome to the show. I am so happy to have you here.

Penny: Thank you, Mo. It is wonderful to be here. Reconnecting with you after so many years feels like perfect timing.

Mo: It really does. Today we are talking about leadership, emotional resilience, stillness, and how to move from reaction into alignment. Before we dive into your work, can you share a little about the journey that led you here?

Penny: My work grew out of my own experience moving through depression and PTSD following a traumatic childhood. For many years, I overachieved without realizing I was trying to compensate for feelings of not being enough. On the outside, I looked successful, but underneath there was pressure, exhaustion, and unresolved pain.

Penny: Over time, I began exploring stillness, breathwork, movement, emotional awareness, and different ways of reconnecting with myself. Those practices helped me move through depression and eventually became the foundation of my Self-Empower work.

Mo: I love that you describe that journey not only as something difficult, but also as a gift that helped you discover your purpose.

Penny: Exactly. I did not set out to create a method or teach anyone. I had to look back and reverse-engineer what had helped me heal. That is how Self-Empower began.

Mo: You work with leaders and high performers who often look composed and successful on the outside. What are you seeing beneath the surface?

Penny: Many leaders quietly believe they are not allowed to struggle. They feel pressure to be perfect, have all the answers, and never show doubt. Even when that pressure is unconscious, it can create stress, anxiety, self-criticism, and a constant need to prove their worth.

Penny: When the mind and heart are no longer working together, we become out of alignment. We may still get things done, but it feels forced. We lead from fear, pressure, and the need to keep up instead of from clarity and purpose.

Mo: What is the first step toward finding that alignment again?

Penny: Stillness. When I say stillness, I do not mean doing nothing. You can be moving, working, speaking, and making decisions while remaining rooted in calm. You can be quick without being in a hurry.

Penny: Stillness helps us access a deeper intelligence within ourselves. When we slow down enough to listen, we begin receiving clarity one moment at a time. We may not see the entire path ahead, but we can recognize the next step.

Mo: You also talk about following the path of least resistance. What does that mean?

Penny: It means meeting yourself where you are. When I was deeply depressed, positive affirmations would not have helped me. They were too far away from what I was feeling. Anger, however, was a higher emotional state than despair, so allowing myself to feel angry could help me move forward.

Penny: The path of least resistance is not the same for everyone. It is simply the next thought, feeling, or action that helps move you slightly above where you are right now.

Mo: In a culture that celebrates hustle and constant productivity, how can stillness become a leadership strength?

Penny: Leaders can accomplish a great deal without stillness, but it often comes at a cost. Over time, excessive resistance can lead to stress, anxiety, exhaustion, and dis-ease.

Penny: Sustainable leadership requires access to something deeper and more dependable than external conditions. Stillness gives leaders a stable place from which to think, respond, and make decisions. That is where clarity becomes a true advantage.

Mo: You have also shared a simple way to manage difficult thoughts before they take over. Can you explain that?

Penny: I call it the combustion of thought. A thought begins gaining momentum quickly, and if we continue focusing on it, more similar thoughts join it. That is why I encourage people to give themselves up to 60 seconds to fully feel an emotion without judgment.

Penny: Resistance is not wrong. We need some resistance to generate power, just as a battery needs positive and negative energy. The key is not staying there. After 60 seconds, ask whether this is a thought you want to continue feeding. If not, swipe to the next thought.

Mo: I love that. We are so good at swiping past content on our phones, but we can learn to do the same with thoughts that are no longer serving us.

Penny: Exactly. The brain is constantly feeding us content. Some of it matters and some of it does not. We have to become more intentional about what we choose to amplify.

Mo: How can leaders recognize when they are reacting instead of acting from alignment?

Penny: Your emotions will tell you. When you are aligned, you may still feel pressure, but you also feel clear, curious, open, and willing. When you are reacting, you tend to feel stuck in stress, fear, doubt, or resistance.

Penny: My practice is to observe and then lead. Take a breath, soften your vision, and notice what is happening within you. You are not your thoughts. You are the quiet presence observing them.

Mo: And once we observe the thought, how do we decide what to do next?

Penny: Ask yourself three questions. Is this a thought I want to say yes to and amplify? Is there an action I can take right now, or am I simply worrying? What is my right-now action?

Penny: Sometimes the answer is to finish the email in front of you. Sometimes it is to drink water, take a break, listen to the person speaking, or focus on the road while driving. The next aligned action is often very simple.

Mo: That is such an important reminder. Growth does not always come from pushing harder. Sometimes it comes from being more intentional with where we place our energy and attention.

Penny: Absolutely. Many of the problems we work so hard to solve do not require more action or more thought. They require us to become still enough for the mind and heart to work together.

Mo: Penny, thank you for sharing your story, your wisdom, and such practical tools for becoming more present and aligned. This conversation is a powerful reminder that clarity, calm, and presence are not luxuries in leadership. They are necessities.

Sometimes our greatest momentum does not come from doing more. It begins when we pause long enough to reconnect with ourselves, listen to what we truly need, and move forward with greater purpose.

You can listen to the full episode here:

The Power of Arrival: A Conversation with Nkechi Nwafor-Robinson | A Mo’ment with Mo

Spring is often thought of as a season of renewal, growth, and new beginnings. But what if it’s also a season of arrival? Not simply arriving at a destination, but arriving more fully into who we are meant to become.

In this episode of A Mo’ment with Mo, I sit down with the remarkable Nkechi Nwafor-Robinson—global technology executive, founder of Empowered in My Skin, speaker, mentor, and one of the most authentic leaders I’ve ever met. Following a recent health journey that challenged her independence and perspective, Nkechi shares the powerful lessons she learned about surrender, community, courage, and discovering strength in unexpected places.

A Conversation with Nkechi Nwafor-Robinson

Mo: Nkechi, your energy is contagious, and I’ve wanted to have you on the podcast since I launched it. Thank you for being here.

Nkechi: Thank you, Mo. The feeling is mutual. Every conversation with you leaves me feeling inspired, so I was honoured to say yes.

Mo: One thing I’ve always loved is the quote in your email signature: “Your smile is your logo. Your personality is your business card. How you leave others feeling becomes your trademark.” Why has that message become so important to you?

Nkechi: Because it’s not just about the experience we create in the moment—it’s about what people carry with them afterward. My hope is that every interaction leaves someone feeling a little more empowered than before. That’s how lasting change happens.

Mo: My word for this year is arrival, and your recent health journey really brought that idea to life. Can you share what happened?

Nkechi: After months of unexplained pain, I was diagnosed with stage-four osteoarthritis in my right hip and needed a total hip replacement. It was humbling. I had always seen myself as strong, independent, and active, so hearing that diagnosis forced me to stop, reflect, and make a decision I never expected to face.

Mo: Yet throughout the experience, you continued to move forward with remarkable optimism.

Nkechi: I gave myself permission to cry—but I didn’t stay there. I prayed, trusted the process, and reminded myself that my body was asking for help, not giving up. Sometimes surrender isn’t about quitting; it’s about allowing life to work for you instead of fighting against it.

Mo: One of the things that touched me most was how you allowed other people to help you.

Nkechi: That was probably the biggest lesson of all. I’m usually the person helping everyone else. This time I had to ask for support. My family, friends, and community surrounded me in ways I never expected. Every time I thought I was losing my independence, someone reminded me that accepting help is also a form of strength.

Mo: Just days after your surgery, you delivered a keynote using a walker. That became another powerful moment in your story.

Nkechi: It did. I wondered if people would see me differently. Instead, someone told me it was the most powerful they had ever seen me speak. That’s when I realized people don’t connect with our perfection or our performance—they connect with our humanity. Real strength comes from within.

Mo: You’ve also shared that your understanding of authenticity has changed.

Nkechi: Completely. I used to think authenticity meant simply bringing your whole self into every room. Now I think it’s having the courage to admit when you don’t have all the answers. It’s being willing to say, “I don’t know what comes next, but I’m going to keep moving forward anyway.”

Mo: That really captures the idea of arrival.

Nkechi: It does. Arrival isn’t reaching a finish line. It’s becoming more comfortable with who you are, even in uncertainty. It’s trusting yourself enough to surrender to the journey.

Mo: Before we finish, what message do you hope people take away from our conversation?

Nkechi: Don’t let life’s challenges pin you down. Your birthright is to feel well, to seek help when you need it, and to trust that even difficult seasons are shaping you. Allow yourself to receive support, embrace the unknown, and remember that your greatest strength often appears when you stop trying to control everything.

Mo: Thank you, Nkechi, for your honesty, vulnerability, and incredible wisdom. Your story reminds us that arrival isn’t a destination—it’s a way of living. Sometimes our greatest growth happens when we slow down, surrender, and trust the journey unfolding before us.

You can listen to the full episode here:

Creating the Next Generation of Elite Fitness Leaders

A Conversation with Milad Emadi

On this episode of A Mo’ment with Mo, I had the privilege of sitting down with one of Canada’s most respected fitness leaders, Milad Emadi.

Milad is the Director of Performance Coaching at MOVATI Athletic and brings more than 20 years of industry leadership to his work. Widely recognized as one of Canada’s top fitness professionals, Milad now focuses on developing high-performing coaches and leaders, raising service and performance standards, and shaping the next generation of elite fitness professionals across MOVATI.

This conversation was about leadership, mastery, mentorship, and what it truly takes to build a meaningful, long-term career in fitness.

Mo: Milad, I am so excited to have you here. This podcast is about meaningful conversations with leaders who move people to greatness, and you truly embody that. You have spent decades in this industry, not only leading by example, but continuously finding new ways to move the profession forward.

Milad: Thank you, Mo. It really means a lot to be here. I have so much respect for what you have done for the industry and for the way you create spaces like this where real conversations can happen.

Mo: I want to start at the beginning. What inspired you to pursue a career in fitness, and how has that journey shaped you as a leader?

Milad: My journey started back in 1999 in a small, old gym. I loved training, I loved lifting, but at the time I never imagined this would become a lifelong career. I grew up in a very academic family. Both of my parents were university educators, and education, leadership, and contribution were the standard in our household.

Fitness was not seen as a respected profession back then. People would often ask, when are you going to get a real job? But I believed deeply that fitness could be a real career, one with purpose, longevity, and impact. Once I commit to something, I go all in. I wanted to prove that this profession mattered.

Mo: And you absolutely have. You have helped change the way this industry is perceived.

Milad: Over the years, I trained tens of thousands of hours on the floor. I failed, I learned, I built trust, and I earned recognition. Eventually, I moved into leadership, education, and operations. What drew me to MOVATI was alignment. Their values around people, service excellence, and long-term development matched my own.

Today, I support over 400 coaches and leaders. I call them my kids because their success matters to me deeply. Fitness is close to my heart because it is one of the few careers where you grow professionally while helping people grow as humans.

Mo: That is such an important point. Fitness is not just a job. It is a high-impact profession.

Milad: Exactly. If you are willing to learn, serve, and stay consistent, this industry gives you a purposeful career. You build leadership, communication, discipline, and relationships. And yes, you can make a great living wearing athletic clothes, which my son thinks is pretty cool.

Mo: You recently made a shift in language at MOVATI from personal training to performance coaching. I love this distinction. Why was that important?

Milad: Because our coaches do far more than one-on-one training. They support recovery, habits, nutrition, movement quality, and long-term wellbeing. Calling them performance coaches recognizes the full scope of their impact and allows their careers to expand alongside industry trends.

Mo: Speaking of trends, the industry is evolving quickly. What are some of the biggest shifts you are seeing right now?

Milad: Fitness is becoming more complete. We are seeing a true 360-degree wellness approach. Performance-based training and community challenges are growing. Recovery is no longer a luxury, it is an expectation. Strength training is now understood as essential for longevity across all ages.

Technology and AI are also tools we must learn to work with. They will not replace coaches, but they will amplify great ones. If you learn how to use them, your service quality improves. If you ignore them, you fall behind.

Mo: That is such an empowering way to look at it. Trends are not threats. They are opportunities.

Milad: Exactly. And that is why I always tell coaches to find their niche. Master it. Do not try to be everything to everyone. Once you master your niche, you can evolve it as the industry evolves.

Mo: That advice is gold. Master your niche, but never stop growing.

Milad: Yes. And leadership is not about being the best. It is about developing people who will surpass you. My responsibility as a leader is succession. If I can help someone do my job better than I ever did, then I have succeeded.

Mo: That mindset is exactly what the future of fitness leadership needs.

We also spent time talking about goal setting, and Milad shared a powerful insight. Goals are not just technical. They are emotional. Every goal starts with a why. As coaches and leaders, our role is to understand the emotions driving action, create safe spaces for growth, and build the behaviors that lead to lasting success.

Milad: Outcomes matter, but behaviors matter more. Skills, repetition, support, and mentorship are what turn goals into reality.

Mo: Before we wrapped up, I asked Milad what message he would leave with fitness professionals at every stage of their career.

Milad: Every fitness professional you work with has potential. The moment you step into leadership, it becomes your responsibility to help them find it. Speak to the best version of the person in front of you, not the version they are today. That is how you build an unbreakable culture.

Lead with integrity. Find your niche. Master it. Never stop learning. If you do that, you become unstoppable.

This conversation was a powerful reminder that leadership in fitness starts with self, grows through service, and expands through mentorship. If you are a fitness professional looking to elevate your impact, this episode offers clarity, confidence, and inspiration for what is possible next.

You can listen to the full episode here:

Elevating the Future of Fitness

On this episode of A Mo’ment with Mo, I had the privilege of reconnecting with a long-time industry leader whose impact on Canadian fitness cannot be overstated. I sat down with Deb Singer, a nationally recognized mentor, educator, and Regional Manager with LIVunLtd, for a deeply inspiring conversation about passion, purpose, mentorship, and what it truly means to create Mo’mentum in the fitness industry.

Deb and I have spent decades working side by side in this industry, helping to elevate standards, develop talent, and open doors for future leaders. This conversation felt like both a reunion and a reflection, a chance to pause, look back, and also look forward at what is possible when education, lived experience, and leadership come together.

Mo: Deb, this honestly feels a little selfish for me because we have not had the chance to really sit and talk like this in a long time. Even though we have been in the industry together for decades, shaping and innovating Canadian fitness, it is so special to reconnect in this space.

Deb: Thank you, Mo. It really is incredible to think about how much time has passed. One of my favourite quotes is that the days are long, but the years are short. When you list everything out, it feels like yesterday that it all began, and suddenly here we are, more than 25 years later.

Mo: And you have done so much in those years. I want to take a moment to truly honour your journey. You have played a defining role in shaping fitness talent across Canada. As a Regional Manager with LIVunLtd, you oversee coaching, mentoring, recruitment, hiring, and professional development for fitness professionals nationwide. Your leadership ensures that thousands of Canadians experience high-quality movement experiences every day.

You also bring over 25 years of experience teaching, training, and developing instructors, including two decades as a Master Trainer, and your influential work as a professor at Humber Polytechnic. You are often the first to spot rising stars and create pathways for their careers. And that does not even touch on your background in education, drama, gymnastics, and your most important role, being a mom.

Deb: Hearing it all like that is a bit surreal. It really has been a journey built one opportunity at a time.

Mo: I would love for you to take us back. What first sparked your passion for this work, and how did that path eventually lead you to LIVunLtd?

Deb: If I go way back, it actually started in high school. That was when more fitness-oriented physical education classes were just beginning. I took a class that was entirely group fitness, and I remember thinking, this is amazing. I tucked that idea away and thought, someday I am going to do this.

At the end of university, I got my first certification through the YMCA, and shortly after that, Canfitpro was born. I transitioned my certification and, honestly, I have never let it go. My Canfitpro number still has 1997 in it, which tells you how long I have been around.

When I moved to Toronto, I was working at Sports Clubs of Canada. I told my manager that I wanted a real career in the industry, not just a job. He suggested I take this new training called BodyPump. I did not even know what it was, but I said yes. That moment changed everything.

Mo: I remember that era so clearly. That innovation sparked an entire generation of leaders.

Deb: It really did. I fell in love not just with teaching, but with educating others to teach. That was the light-bulb moment for me. I wanted to raise the bar and help future fitness professionals succeed. Teaching at the college level was always a goal, and I have now been at Humber for ten years.

About three years ago, the opportunity to join LIVunLtd came along. It felt like everything coming together. I had done the frontline work earlier in my career, and now I could mentor, coach, and lead others doing that same work in corporate and community settings.

Mo: That alignment makes so much sense. LIVunLtd is doing incredible work, bringing wellness into workplaces and communities, and creating real career pathways for fitness professionals.

Deb: That is exactly it. We work directly with corporate partners, HR teams, and property managers to deliver health and wellness programs onsite. The professionals I oversee are boots on the ground, helping people move better, feel better, and build habits that carry into everyday life. It is incredibly rewarding.

Mo: One of the things I admire most about your work is how intentional you are about mentorship. You bridge that gap between certification and real-world experience, which is often the hardest part.

Deb: That gap is real. You graduate, you get certified, and then you ask, now what? Being able to bring students into internships, part-time roles, and eventually full-time careers is huge. It gives them confidence and clarity early on.

Mo: For those just starting out, or considering a career in fitness, what advice would you offer?

Deb: This will not surprise you, but I always encourage people to get certified in group fitness through a reputable organization like Canfitpro. Teaching group fitness has shaped every aspect of my career. It opens doors, builds confidence, and sets you apart. Even if you think it is not your end goal, it will give you skills that translate everywhere.

Mo: That is such an important message. Another thing we both deeply believe in is education and ongoing professional development. Why do you feel that matters so much right now?

Deb: Credibility. Certification creates standards of excellence. When someone sees a Canfitpro credential, they know that professional has met a high bar for safety, effectiveness, and service. In an industry where not everything is standardized, that matters. People deserve to be cared for by qualified professionals.

And continuing education should excite you. If learning does not energize you, then you really have to ask if this is the right field. Even after all these years, I still want to know what is new, what the research says, and how I can create better experiences for the people who trust us with their health.

Mo: You work closely with young people every day. What trends are you seeing among students entering the industry?

Deb: Many start with a love of movement. From there, they are drawn to athletic training, functional movement, recovery, mobility, and wellness coaching. They understand that health is not just about pushing harder. It is about balance, recovery, and sustainability.

Mo: That aligns perfectly with what we are seeing across the industry. Passion for movement is still the spark, and from there, the possibilities expand.

Deb: Exactly. And many of these students grew up seeing movement as a lifestyle, not a luxury. That is powerful.

Mo: Before we wrap up, I want to ask one final question. You have mentored so many leaders. What is the biggest lesson you have learned, and what message do you want today’s fitness professionals to hear?

Deb: The biggest lesson is to meet people where they are. My role is not to force people into a box. It is to help them move in whatever way feels right for them. As long as they are safe and supported, that is what matters.

And I always come from this place. It is my privilege to teach, to coach, to mentor. People are busy. They choose to spend their time with us. That is a gift, and it changes everything when you lead from that mindset.

Mo: That is such a powerful reminder. Privilege brings responsibility. Responsibility brings purpose.

This conversation is a beautiful example of what happens when passion, education, and mentorship align. Deb, your dedication to elevating the fitness industry continues to shape not just careers, but lives. You are truly one of the unicorns of our industry, and I am so grateful for the work you do.

If you are a fitness professional, educator, leader, or someone searching for your next Mo’ve, this episode is your reminder that momentum is created through service, learning, and connection.

You can listen to the full episode here:
https://amomentwithmo.mohagan.com/2114715/episodes/18293568-elevating-the-future-of-fitness-a-mo-ment-with-deb-singer

Or watch on YouTube here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=238MpSTKs40

To learn more about LIVunLtd, visit:
https://livunltd.com

Empowering the Next Generation of Fierce Leaders

On this episode of A Mo’ment with Mo, I had the absolute pleasure of connecting with two women who are deeply committed to leadership, empowerment, and community. I sat down with Kelsey Vickers, Co-Founder of Fit and Fierce, and Julia Kinsella, CEO of Fit and Fierce, to talk about confidence, resilience, mentorship, and what it truly means to lead with purpose.

This conversation was full of heart, grit, and real leadership lessons. It was also a powerful reminder that some of the most meaningful connections happen when we are brave enough to speak up and step forward.

Mo: I am so excited to have you both here. This podcast is about meaningful conversations with leaders who move people to greatness, and you both embody that so clearly. Kelsey, I still remember the moment we first met. Sometimes the most powerful connections happen in the most unexpected places, even in a women’s washroom at a fitness convention.

Kelsey: It was a little bold, but I knew I had to take my chance. I had just listened to David Patchell Evans speak, and when he said I needed to talk to you, I thought, this is my moment. So I introduced myself and shared the dream I had to empower young girls.

Mo: And that moment is such a lesson in leadership. Taking action. Believing in your vision. Staying in the game. That courage is exactly what Fit and Fierce represents.

For those who are new to your story, I would love for you to share what Fit and Fierce is all about and what inspired you to create this movement.

Kelsey: Fit and Fierce started because we wanted to create a safe space for girls. A place where they could build confidence, find community, and develop skills that support them emotionally, physically, and mentally. Adolescence can be challenging, and girls need tools to navigate friendships, school pressures, and self-doubt. Our program is a year-long personal development experience focused on fitness, mindset, and nutrition. It is about helping girls grow strong in body, mind, and spirit.

Mo: That idea of building skills for life is so powerful. Julia, your journey into Fit and Fierce is deeply personal. Can you share what brought you into this work?

Julia: Absolutely. Kelsey was actually my personal trainer for over a decade, and my daughter joined Fit and Fierce when she was in grade five or six. I was already doing a lot of personal development work myself, but watching my daughter go through the program was incredible. Even on days when she did not feel like going, she would come out energized, confident, and uplifted. As a parent, I knew how valuable that was.

Over time, Kelsey and I started having more business conversations. I had a background in banking and entrepreneurship, and eventually we realized that partnering made sense. What started as support turned into a shared mission.

Mo: That is such a beautiful example of alignment and trust. Fit and Fierce has impacted thousands of girls over the years, and many of them come back as mentors.

Kelsey: Yes, that is one of the most special parts. Girls go through the program, and then they return as mentors and coaches. We call them our unicorns because they are just incredible young women. It creates this powerful culture where girls support girls. There is no competition, just connection and growth.

Mo: That sense of community really stood out to me. Leadership is not about going it alone. It is about connection. I often say that resilience is not about avoiding challenges. It is about how we choose to respond to them.

I want to ask you both about resilience. As leaders and entrepreneurs, how have you learned to keep going when things do not go as planned?

Kelsey: For me, it comes back to courage. Everything we teach the girls is something I work on myself. Confidence is built through trying. You do not become confident by waiting until you feel ready. You build it by showing up, taking steps forward, and learning along the way. If you keep swinging, you are always moving forward, no matter the outcome.

Mo: That is such a powerful message. Julia, what about you?

Julia: Community has been everything for me. Raising children taught me that you cannot do everything alone, even when you are doing the work. There are moments when you need mentors and support. Fit and Fierce provides that space for girls and for families. It helps you adjust the sails when life feels challenging and reminds you that you are not alone.

Mo: That idea of adjusting the sails really resonates. Growth often comes when we are willing to sit with discomfort and keep moving anyway.

One of the things I love most about Fit and Fierce is that it is not just a business. It is a movement. You are building leaders and creating spaces where girls can truly thrive. How has community shaped your leadership?

Kelsey: Community is at the heart of everything we do. When girls come together in our sessions, you can feel the energy. They are learning together, growing together, and supporting one another. That sense of belonging is so important at any age.

Julia: And for me, being part of this community has been incredibly fulfilling. There are so many women ready to mentor and lead. The demand is there. I truly believe every girl deserves access to this kind of support.

Mo: Looking ahead, you both have a big vision for Fit and Fierce. What is next?

Kelsey: We want to grow across Canada and beyond. We are looking for passionate women who want to mentor the next generation through fitness, mindset, and nutrition. Mentorship can change the trajectory of a young person’s life, and that is what drives us.

Julia: Our vision is bold. We want Fit and Fierce to be a new-age version of Girl Guides. A nationwide community supporting girls from grade three through high school, and eventually expanding even further. The opportunity is huge, and the impact is needed.

Mo: I cannot wait to see where this goes. This conversation is such a reminder that leadership is about purpose, passion, and perseverance. It is about showing up, even when it feels uncomfortable, and believing in what you are building.

To everyone reading this, this episode is your permission slip. A reminder that bold steps matter. That community matters. And that when you lead with heart, you create ripple effects far beyond what you can see.

You can listen to the full conversation here:
https://amomentwithmo.mohagan.com/2114715/episodes/18178022-empowering-the-next-generation-of-fierce-leaders

Or watch on YouTube here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aD9_TgC980

Finding Yourself in a Busy World: A Conversation with Laura Warf

On this episode of A Mo’ment with Mo, I had the pleasure of sitting down with wellness educator, empowerment coach, and author Laura Warf. Laura brings more than 35 years of experience in the wellness space, including fitness club management, yoga studio ownership, posture therapy, and international teaching. What makes her work so impactful is the way she blends deep wisdom with grounded, practical tools that people can actually use in their everyday lives.

Our conversation centered around the themes in Laura’s debut book, Home Within: The Forgotten Art of Finding Yourself, and the idea that so many of us are searching for answers outside ourselves when what we are really longing for is a sense of coming home.

Mo: Laura, I am really grateful you are here. There is such a sense of calm and presence about you, and I know that does not come from theory. It comes from lived experience. I would love for you to share what inspired you to write Home Within.

Laura: Thank you, Mo. The book grew out of my own life and the lives of the people I have worked with over the years. I have spent decades in wellness spaces, managing clubs, running a yoga studio, teaching all over the world, and what I kept noticing was that people were doing everything they thought they were supposed to do. They were exercising, eating well, learning, growing, and yet there was still this feeling of disconnection. A sense that something was missing.

Mo: That feeling is so familiar. Especially now. People are busy, overstimulated, and constantly pulled outward.

Laura: Exactly. We live in a culture that values doing over being. From a young age, we are taught to look outside ourselves for answers. We look to achievements, productivity, and approval to tell us who we are and whether we are enough. Over time, that pulls us out of our bodies and out of our hearts.

Mo: You talk about that a lot, the idea of living in the head instead of the heart. How do you help people understand that difference in a practical way?

Laura: Living in the head is about analysis, control, and constant thinking. The mind is very good at problem solving, but when it runs the show all the time, it creates tension and anxiety. Living from the heart is about presence and awareness. It is about listening to the body and trusting the quiet signals we often ignore. The heart has its own intelligence, but you can only hear it when you slow down.

Mo: Slowing down is hard for people. We say we want peace, but when things get quiet, discomfort shows up.

Laura: That is very true. Stillness can feel threatening because it removes distraction. When you stop moving, stop doing, and stop filling every moment, you start to feel what has been there all along. That might be grief, exhaustion, or unresolved emotion. But stillness is not the enemy. It is the doorway.

Mo: I love that you call it a doorway. It changes how people think about it.

Laura: Stillness is where the nervous system begins to settle. It is where clarity emerges. It does not have to mean sitting for an hour in meditation. It can be a few intentional breaths. It can be pausing before reacting. It can be checking in with yourself and asking, what do I need right now?

Mo: That question alone can be life changing.

Laura: Yes, because it brings you back into relationship with yourself. So many people have lost that connection. They override their bodies, their emotions, and their intuition every day without realizing it.

Mo: Forgiveness is another theme you explore that can bring up a lot for people. We touched on how challenging that can be.

Laura: Forgiveness is often misunderstood. People think it means condoning what happened or excusing harmful behaviour. That is not what forgiveness is. Forgiveness is about freeing yourself from carrying the weight of the past. When we hold onto resentment or guilt, it lives in the body. It affects our energy and our health.

Mo: And self-forgiveness can be even harder.

Laura: Absolutely. Many people are incredibly compassionate toward others but deeply critical of themselves. Learning to forgive yourself is an act of kindness. It allows you to soften and move forward without dragging old stories into the present moment.

Mo: Gratitude came up in such an honest way too. Not as something performative, but something embodied.

Laura: Gratitude is powerful because it shifts your state. When you are present and grateful in the moment, your energy changes. Your body responds differently. Gratitude brings you into now, and now is where peace exists.

Mo: That really stood out to me. This work is not about fixing yourself. It is about remembering yourself.

Laura: Exactly. You are not broken. You do not need to become someone else. Coming home to yourself is a practice of awareness, listening, and compassion. You return to it again and again.

Mo: This conversation felt like an invitation to slow down and reconnect, especially in a world that constantly pulls us outward.

Laura: That is my hope. That people remember they already have what they are looking for. It lives within them.

If you have been feeling disconnected, overwhelmed, or like you have lost touch with yourself, this episode offers gentle guidance and practical wisdom. It is a reminder that stillness, forgiveness, and gratitude are not lofty ideas. They are daily practices that can help you feel more at home in your own life.

You can listen to the full conversation here:
https://amomentwithmo.mohagan.com/2114715/episodes/17947116-finding-yourself-in-a-busy-world-with-laura-warf

Or watch on YouTube:
https://youtu.be/b64NuCoPFgM?si=FM9yxd8CUwv497vw

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